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fluteguy18 wrote:Tonight I uploaded three new posts. Topics covered: bracing, soldering, and buffing.

A LOT more to come. Topics yet to cover: lathe work, burnishing, stuck parts, dent tool manufacturing, silver soldering success, a disastrous project trumpet, dent work, goblins, shoes for giants, and kitty litter cake.

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Congratulations on your new job and thanks for posting the blogs on your redwing adventure. I've been away from fluteland for a bit - busy with admin stuff at home. Just back in and great to see ... dude.... you CAN solder.

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My soldering has greatly improved. It's a slower process at the moment than I want it to be, but I'd rather be slow and spot on accurate than fast and messy. Now that I've switched from liquid to paste flux and from a thick gauge lead solder to a thin gauge lead-free solder/low temp silver solder, I'm much MUCH happier with the process. Still practicing and not as good as I want to be, but now there's only a pink haze from the flux, some brown discoloration (my flux is brown and darkens when heated), and beautiful solder lines: full, smooth, and clean. My feed point is a little messier than I want it to be and I'm still working on the process.

But what can I say? I'm new to soldering.

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FG18 - Try flattening the round solder. You'll get less "bleed" away from the joint. Flatten it in a smooth jaw vise or use flat jaw pliers. Try it - YOU'LL LIKE IT!!
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I actually came up with that idea a few days ago and it worked! My favorite technique that I 'invented' (though I'm sure it's been done before) goes as follows:

Paint the underside of the part with paste flux. Take a piece of solder wire and hammer it flat on a bench anvil until it's extremely thin (almost like a stiff gold leaf). Put it in the flux under the part with tweezers so I don't contaminate with skin oils. Clip the part in place. Heat with a torch, and the solder melts and adheres. If it is slightly under-full I then flatten the wire and clip off tiny pieces and place them with tweezers then flow the solder where I want it. Does it take a while? Yes. It's much slower than I want it to be. But on the other hand the joints are pristine and clean up is almost non-existent. Aside from a brief wipe down and light buff to remove oxides there is very little tinning (if any at all) to address. There is little to no risk of damage from over heating or removing too much material while buffing away tinning.

But this is also extremely dependent on the fit of the part. So far my fitting skills have been truly excellent (if I do say so myself :wink: ) and very little solder is needed to fill and adhere in the first place.

I'm also practicing other methods, but that's my favorite so far.

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Two new posts: My patient has arrived and what happens when I have too much time on my hands.

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fluteguy18 wrote:I've made a few posts tonight. I have a LOT of things coming and I start woodwinds in a little over a week. Clarinet first, then flute closer to the Holidays. But in other news I have started turning piccolo head joints in the mornings before class. The instructors are giving me tips on how to use the equipment but leaving the process to me since they don't know a lot about it. I've been doing a lot of reading, studying, measuring, and so forth... Hopefully I'll have some updates and posts on that front soon.

No working headjoints yet... but soon I hope. I'm establishing a process on cheap CHEAP CHEAP wood (oak) and my more expensive stock is coming in this week: Grenadilla, Cocobolo, and bubinga.
Be careful with Cocobolo. The dust has a fairly high toxicity level. And you should check your allergy sensitivity to various wood dusts. Some people are more sensitive than others.

Don't forget also that when turning piccolo headjoints, you should turn the wood completely to the bore. :twisted:
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Three new posts. Bell Flare dent removal and making a crook dent rod (two parts).

I had an idea for a new flute tool today. It's probably not a new invention but it would certainly be handy: a headjoint cork setting tool that would allow you to remove and install a cork to the same exact depth every time. One end for flutes and one end for piccolos. It would be very simple and easy to make. It's on my lengthy list of things to do. :)

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Get well soon FG18!!!

Joe warned you about the cocobolo dust, but I guess we should have added "Watch your step" too...

BTW, I've been reading your blog. It looks like you're getting indoctrinated with the brass work. Good luck with the piccolo headjoint building. You should find the good wood easier to turn. As you pointed out, oak is a rather coarse, porous wood that tears out easily during turning. Be sure that your cutting tools are VERY sharp. That will ensure a cleaner cut regardless of the material. But, you are probably wise to practice your techniques with the cheaper woods first so that you can make your mistakes without costing a fortune.
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Making piccolo headjoints is relatively easy, you just have to consider grain types before proceeding

For softer woods, its better to use a router on the material rather than a single edge pairing tool as used on a lathe

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fluteguy18 wrote:...I just have to heal first.... (fell down a flight of stairs and badly injured several internal organs). I probably won't continue on this project any further until November. Aside from going to class, I'm basically on bed rest (for the most part) until then. I had a good bit of internal bleeding and bruising...
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I hope sincerely you are fine soon! But take your time so your recovery works...

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fluteguy18 wrote:Enough for 6 headjoints.
...if there are no checks in the wood and you don't make any mistakes along the way... :cry:
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