Where can I get a donut

krzymunkey · Post by **krzymunkey** » Fri Sep 05, 2003 8:35 pm

ho much do they cost, how do they work?

Penny · Post by **Penny** » Sat Sep 06, 2003 11:27 am

Krispy Kreme are my favs but Dunkin does a good
job too. I posted the address of a company that makes products for adjustments
of the flute. Forget which thread but they could sell you a nice glazed
donut.

flutegirl49 · Post by **flutegirl49** » Wed Feb 02, 2005 12:54 am

im confused...donuts? glazed donuts? adjustments?

what are you talking about?

are you really talking about actual edible DONUTS??!

biggzh · Post by **biggzh** » Wed Feb 02, 2005 4:50 am

The Donut insert people.... Sheesh! You know, the one that works like a Split E key....

flutegirl49 · Post by **flutegirl49** » Wed Feb 02, 2005 7:43 pm

are you saying that that insert comes in GLAZED? and its called a donut?? PLUS krispy kreme nad dunkin donuts selll these GLAZED FLUTE inserts that are non edible??

there are too many coincidences here...

ick27 · Post by **ick27** » Fri Feb 04, 2005 11:06 am

The G-donut is designed to improve high E's, just as an E-mechanism does. The flutes we all play have two G tone holes (one you operate with the left hand pinky and the other by the ring finger along with the A key). The problem is, high E plays best if there is no venting in the G tone holes. A split E mechanism solves this by allowing the right hand to close the G# key usually linked to the A key. A G donut partially covers the G tone hole so there is less venting that takes place. Sometimes, it is just a metal washer (hence the term donut), but a crescent shape is also used, so the venting is closer to the G# tone hole.
I hope I haven't made this too confusing!

Anyhow, the point of it is to make high E easier to produce, and they can be soldered in by a flute technician who knows what they are doing. It's not really a big problem if you don't have one, I consider it sort of a minor perk. I have the crescent type in my flute, and I like it. I think it may be referred to as a "high E facilitator."

efhsBlueRegiment · Post by **efhsBlueRegiment** » Fri Feb 04, 2005 4:12 pm

wow...i had 2 read that one twice!

flutegirl49 wrote:are you saying that that insert comes in GLAZED? and its called a donut?? PLUS krispy kreme nad dunkin donuts selll these GLAZED FLUTE inserts that are non edible?? there are too many coincidences here...

flutegirl49 · Post by **flutegirl49** » Sun Feb 06, 2005 10:12 pm

efhsBlueRegiment wrote:wow...i had 2 read that one twice!
flutegirl49 wrote:are you saying that that insert comes in GLAZED? and its called a donut?? PLUS krispy kreme nad dunkin donuts selll these GLAZED FLUTE inserts that are non edible?? there are too many coincidences here...

hahahaha... i was really confused because of this comment

Penny wrote:Krispy Kreme are my favs but Dunkin does a good
job too. I posted the address of a company that makes products for adjustments
of the flute. Forget which thread but they could sell you a nice glazed
donut.

so i thought they sold them at dunkin donuts and kirspy kreme! lols.. so i guess her respond was a bit off?

efhsBlueRegiment · Post by **efhsBlueRegiment** » Mon Feb 07, 2005 4:13 pm

yea her reply was a bit confusing, in 3 sentenses she talked about where to get a donut for ur flute, how she liked krispy kreme better, and how she thought one of the threads could sell u a nice donut! man i'm sorry that i'm blonde sometimes

pandagirl11 · Post by **pandagirl11** » Mon Feb 07, 2005 8:34 pm

Man, this post always gets me laughing. <snickers> =)

flutegirl49 · Post by **flutegirl49** » Tue Feb 08, 2005 11:31 pm

hahahahaha

yeah... it got me laughing too

"penny"'s post is REALLY confusing though if u didnt know exactly what a dounut one.. or else i wouoldve thought nothing of this topic

Burke · Post by **Burke** » Thu Feb 10, 2005 6:02 am

This is a funny thread, and for some reason, I now have a taste for donuts. If you like donuts, you'd enjoy knowing a friend of mine, who makes them from scratch. I wish I had her gumption. I'm not inclined to make anything from scratch.

For those who are interested, Miyazawa offers a good explanation with illustrations of the split E mechanism and high E facilitator:

http://www.miyazawa.com/articles/other1.htm

Question for those who have the latter (Bradford -- ick27 -- mentioned having the high E facilitator): Have you noticed a 'slight lowering of pitch of the third octave A' with this addition? Miyazawa refers to this consequence at the bottom of the page at the link above.

ick27 · Post by **ick27** » Fri Feb 11, 2005 5:06 pm

I've noticed that the A is slightly lower in the first two octaves, but third octave A seems not to be effected. (The way you can check this is by playing an A and then pressing the Ab key down, which gives "full" venting.) The Miyizawa page has a picture of the washer shape, while mine is the crescent shape, which theoretically will not change the pitch of notes (particularly A) as much since the venting all on one side of the tone hole (the side facing the head joint) although I bet there is very little difference between the two types.

This change in pitch is ever so slight though, it's hardly noticable at all, and doesn't create a problem for me. It does improve the high E significantly though, so I think it's a good solution.

Burke · Post by **Burke** » Tue Feb 15, 2005 7:11 pm

I read your first post again, and noted that you'd mentioned having the crescent shape. I have a split E mechanism. My high E has improved dramatically since I've had this flute too, and I know it's not my skill. I noticed the difference immediately. I was still curious about the statement on the Miyizawa page though, since I'm trying to learn as much as I can, even about things that don't pertain to my own flute. Thanks for sharing your thoughts Bradford.

Just the other day, I asked a flutist how long it would take for me to stop having nightmares about the third register. He replied that he'd been playing for over twenty years, and he'd let me know when he stopped having them. I don't know whether I feel better or not.

flutegirl49 · Post by **flutegirl49** » Sun Feb 27, 2005 11:05 pm

No one answered the topic starter's first question..
HOW MUCH DO THEY COST?

and I want a DONUT now..

In all seriousness though I do.. but it is reasonable to use them with even a Beginner's flute? Is it worth it?

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