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Custom Flute Crown Art

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A couple of my flutist friends recently expressed some interest in new flute crowns. They didn't want jeweled crowns though. (one of them is male and thought jeweled crowns were a bit too effeminate for his tastes :oops: )

Instead they wanted something unique and tasteful, so I decided to put some of my skills to work for them and try my hand at making some custom crowns. Below are the custom crowns that I created for them.

For the first one, I added a sunflower and gold plated portions of it for some contrasting highlights.
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For the next one, I added a butterfly and gold plated highlights.
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Nice job!
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Wow !!!! That's really pretty.

You should sell these.

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Fantastic!
Excellent idea and execution!
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Love it! Thanks for sharing and keep the ideas coming. Those are very beautiful and, as you say, might more attractive to us boy flutists :-) Although I have an amber crown on mine, I really like your work -- not only original, but also great looking.

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By the way, how much for one of those in all 14k rose gold? Answer me privately if you likee.

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Thanks to everyone for your kind comments.

I may consider making crowns for others. If there is interest, PM me.
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So pretty. I'd love for you to make me one!

Speaking of flute crowns, does anyone know where I could possibly get one?

Thanks and keep up the wonderful art--I mean work. :D
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Are you looking for a stock crown? Stock ones are available at many music stores or repair shops. Be aware that crowns are not fully interchangeable across different brands. Some are compatible with others but not all. What brand is your flute headjoint?
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SK -- I have an amber crown on my flute too!

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I read in Flute Talk magazine that the weight of a crown does influence tone production. Can someone elaborate on that?

Last night at orchestra rehearsal I noticed that the crowns on two 14K HJs (Brannen and Powell) that the second flutist was trying out were not as deep as the crown on my 14K Williams HJ. I guess he's itching to get a new flute and/or HJ since I got a new flute. But I really like the dark tone he gets on his Powell right now.

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I read that too, but I haven't tried it yet. It seems that any change in the mass of the north end of the headjoint affects the sound and response. Changing the stopper supposedly has similar effects.

See: http://www.larrykrantz.com/stopper.htm

I suspect that the changes are somewhat subjective though, as to whether the effects are positive or negative. I've also read that some players have added lead between the crown and stopper to add mass (but I'd recommend against that due to the hazards of lead poisoning). Other dense but less toxic metals could be used for similar results. Oh wait, here's a thought... Uranium and plutonium are even denser than lead and players using this would be assured of having "glowing" performances. :mrgreen:

Metals such as brass, copper, nickel-silver, steel, and aluminum are readily available in rod form, not too expensive, and fairly easy to machine on a lathe. I guess I'll have to try machining some inserts, stoppers, or crowns to experiment with when I have some free time.
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Very nice and artistic!

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cflutist wrote:I read in Flute Talk magazine that the weight of a crown does influence tone production. Can someone elaborate on that?

Last night at orchestra rehearsal I noticed that the crowns on two 14K HJs (Brannen and Powell) that the second flutist was trying out were not as deep as the crown on my 14K Williams HJ. I guess he's itching to get a new flute and/or HJ since I got a new flute. But I really like the dark tone he gets on his Powell right now.
If you're talking about "tone production" then that's probably totally untrue. If you're talking about "tone" then I'm just skeptical about it. (Tone production is mostly only dependent from stopper down, tone refers to the sound itself.) Heehee sometimes being too specific with my words can be a problem, especially essay writing.

And when you say different sounds, do you mean that different sounds on different headjoints, the same crown in different headjoints, or different crowns on the same headjoint?

I can only think of three things that a crown may affect tone: psychological, dampening, resonance. The psychological part's obvious, nothing much to say. For dampening, I suppose a heavier crown will dampen the higher frequencies, but I honestly don't see how that has an appreciable effect since virtually all the sound is radiated from the tone holes and the embouchure hole. The same goes for resonance, which I mean that different crowns will leave different size spaces between the stopper and the crown itself.

PP, about the stoppers, from the page you posted, "The results given below are those discernible to the player as distinct from the listener. The tests were carried out on a silver flute but occasionally a brighter head piece was used. The effect of the stopper varies with the head used." I think that statement essentially nullifies the whole experiment. What a waste! And not just that, "However, two experienced players using another piccolo did not confirm this advantage while a third player playing on another instrument did, so the position is unclear." seems to say that the experiment was a failure and "You will hear sounds from your instrument that you have not heard before." makes it sound so dramatic that it's hard to believe what he's saying is true.

But I think the big difference is that the stoppers had O-rings rather than corks.

ANYWAY, relevant to the original post, I think it would have been nicer if you could make a BIG sunflower. And perhaps add leaves? As for the butterfly, I think it looks "cute" =P I suppose that's for one of the ladies? I was thinking whether the owner would mind about symmetry :| I know I would.

Actually I think a totally plain crown; like TOTALLY PLAIN, no engravings or anything whatsoever, would look pretty cool. (FYI, I am not a minimalist.)
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