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The Artist as Technician

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I just finished reading Michel Debost's article in this month's Flute talk magazine. What did you guys think of it? for those who havent read it/ cant, i took the time and typed it out. see below. all the disclaimer stuff is in effect. :mrgreen:


The notion that science and art cannot coexist and that they might be mutually destructive was one of the saddest traits of the nineteenth century, otherwise known as the Industrial Age. The order of the day was the almighty reign of science and industry, at the expense of clear water, clean air, natural beauty and art. Thankfully, our twenty first century has become conscious of our reckless contempt for the earth and is trying, not always with success, to remedy that with the help of imagination and technology.

A long time ago, Greek philosophers considered medicine as an art, and music and prosody as the prime science. To a certain extent, I am reminded of common misunderstandings in flute playing in which sound, articulation, rhythm, vibrato, finger technique, and interpretation are considered distinctly entities to be practiced separately. However, the farther we advance in the art of the flute, the more each aspect of playing affects every other. when does interpretation start and where does instrumental playing stop? It is the eternal conflict between letter and spirit, form and content, style and meaning. All the arts have the same dilemma. "Art is but feeling" wrote the sculptor Aguste Rodin. "But without the science of volumes, of proportions, of colors, the liveliest feeling is paralyzed. How would the greatest poet fare ion a foreign land whose language he wouldn't know?"

Our instrumental playing is, modestly, like Rodin's science. It is there to serve our love of music and the feeling it conveys, but it cannot come to life by itself as a self-contained entity independent of emotion. There can be no interpretation without healthy and humanistic playing' and a satisfactory technique cannot be created without a musical project.

In other words, a technical problem will not be solved by a purely mechanical approach alone, but also with the help of musical imagination. We should put technique into our music, and put music into our technique. My dream would be to become a sort of renaissance man of the flute. The more we know in one area, the more access we have to a better perception of the whole. Speed is not at the expense of tone, articulation is not independent of interpretation; baroque music belongs to all, and you don't have to be a specialist to play contemporary explorations. Within instrumental playing itself, it helps to think of fast passages in terms if tone and support; conversely, phrasing and poetic interpretation are destroyed by slamming fingers, noisy breathing, broken slurs, and "out-tonation" as tom nyfenger used to call tuning problems. At times, when we listen to another flutist, we feel that the vibrato is not coherent with the sound or with the feeling he is trying to convey. Or, his fine sound vanishes as soon as fingers move faster or when the music calls for rapid articulation. Let us consider a problematic finger passage in the finale of the Ibert Concerto: (16th notes all slured in this order) Ab, g e f sharp f natural, d, e, Eb, c, d, Db, Bb, c b, gsharp, Bb, a, fsharp, Ab, g, e, fsharp, f, d, half note g. It really pays off to sing al the notes, especially the fist six, as if they were slow, because the difficulty comes from the connection of the tone between notes even if they are fingered perfectly. With concentration, not force, this run flows natrually, like a "river runs through it"

Other passages, here and elsewhere, (i am thinking of the opening page of the same Ibert COncerto) should have a somewhat biting stacatto, even if the general character of this movement is of a lighter veign than most flutists think. As an artist, even before tackling a demanding piece, the first thoughts should be: "Where is this music going? Is it aggressive? Is it tender? Or joyous, or serene, or open (allegro aperto of the mozart d concerto)? Consider this idea in Bach's Partita. This page is often considered easy yet its simplicity and serene feeling are better served by phrasing with loving fingers and good intonation than by tone effects and excessive vibrato. And that truly is the real difficulty. There are countless examples such as the sarabande, both fast and slow. Even scales and daily exercises, so often perfunctorily tossed off, provide the means of perfecting one's playing. They are musicians, first and foremost.

Thanks to them, an ambitious flutist can develop articulation and speed without jeopardizing tone quality, have a living perception of intonation, perform fast passages with a sense of tone and play slow phrases with a feeling for perfection and smoothness of fingers. Develop speed with a consciousness of sound. Play slow phrases with a beauty of gestures. Playing an instrument involves the whole player. Jon Ruskin wrote: "Fine art is that in which the hand, the head, and the heart of man go together"

-Michel Debost Article in nov. 2010's Flute talk magazine.
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Thanks so much for that!! I don't think the magazine is available in Australia (if it is... what am I doing? Why aren't I getting yet? Anyway...)

What an interesting read. Really makes you think a bit more about the relation between technical ability and musicianship/interpretation.
I used to have terrible technical ability (well, not terrible, but it wasn't up to scratch) and would try to excuse myself by convincing myself that I was interested in playing music, not just being a technician.
Of course, I am older and more mature now, and have brought my technical level to a much higher standard.

I'm still only just realising truly how important technical ability is, especially now that I am at a higher level of playing than I was and aiming higher (I recently had my Licentiate Diploma exam - awaiting results). But also how it only exists to serve the music, once you have the technical ability, you are free within the music to interpret and make art... but it shouldn't be ABOUT technicality. I think I'm just rephrasing Debost now so I'll shut up.

Anyway, thanks!
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lianeandflute wrote:Thanks so much for that!! I don't think the magazine is available in Australia (if it is... what am I doing? Why aren't I getting yet? Anyway...)

What an interesting read. Really makes you think a bit more about the relation between technical ability and musicianship/interpretation.
I used to have terrible technical ability (well, not terrible, but it wasn't up to scratch) and would try to excuse myself by convincing myself that I was interested in playing music, not just being a technician.
Of course, I am older and more mature now, and have brought my technical level to a much higher standard.

I'm still only just realising truly how important technical ability is, especially now that I am at a higher level of playing than I was and aiming higher (I recently had my Licentiate Diploma exam - awaiting results). But also how it only exists to serve the music, once you have the technical ability, you are free within the music to interpret and make art... but it shouldn't be ABOUT technicality. I think I'm just rephrasing Debost now so I'll shut up.

Anyway, thanks!
Haha, yeah totally, im with you. i got to being serious a couple months ago, im still at a younger age where it wont hurt me, thankfully! Michel Debost is my favorites to read. keep an eye out every month, if its something i feel interesting and feel like sharing ill type it out and post it on here :wink:
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How old are you?
I'm 18 so I'm quite young too but it is important now! I'm about to start uni next year (Sydney Conservatorium).

Are you thinking of going to uni for flute? Or are you already?
"It's happening inside you; not in the flute!" - Emmanuel Pahud (At a masterclass in Sydney, Nov. 2010)

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lianeandflute wrote:How old are you?
I'm 18 so I'm quite young too but it is important now! I'm about to start uni next year (Sydney Conservatorium).

Are you thinking of going to uni for flute? Or are you already?
im 16, eventually, yes. i am going to a college next year, i graduate next year. ooh i hope you have fun! i have an austrailian friend in sydney that tells me how good the conservatorium is :D i start a comm. college next year then go into uni.
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Oh cool! Good luck! Who is your friend? I might know / know of them.
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lianeandflute wrote:Oh cool! Good luck! Who is your friend? I might know / know of them.
she's a lot younger and goes to a girl's school over there, so i highly doubt lol. i'll ask what school and get back to you :) its a private academy. but she tells me a lot about what's over there, and she keeps me updated with happenings of the eminence symphony.
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Oh okay never mind then, haha! I probably won't know her. The eminence symphony is really good! I saw them performing stuff from Star Wars and the old John Williams classics like Harry Potter and Indiana Jones. My friend was playing harp in it and my old flute teacher was conducting (he's assistant to Gelmetti now in Italy). That was like 6 years ago though. I don't really see them much because they mostly play movie and games music. Anyway sorry this is off topic!!
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lianeandflute wrote:Oh okay never mind then, haha! I probably won't know her. The eminence symphony is really good! I saw them performing stuff from Star Wars and the old John Williams classics like Harry Potter and Indiana Jones. My friend was playing harp in it and my old flute teacher was conducting (he's assistant to Gelmetti now in Italy). That was like 6 years ago though. I don't really see them much because they mostly play movie and games music. Anyway sorry this is off topic!!
wow, you are so lucky! i am big into game and tv show themes. My favorite composer is Yuki Kajiura. Whenever you have the time, look up Kara No Kyoukai ost 2 m10. she made a lot of songs for this particular series of movies so she didnt name it. the link is below. it has a wonderful flute melody.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zw3h-MKuXs

straying from the topic is perfectly fine. I'd love to get the chance to play with eminence. You cant make anything over in America unless its a top orchestra or band.
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'The Artist as Technician.'

Original Subject! (There ARE Private Messages on here for stuff like the above...).

I agree with Debost. This philosophy is exactly what my primary teacher has always taught me, and what her teacher (Doriot Dwyer) had taught her, and what her teacher had taught her (Georges Barerre), and what his had taught him (Taffanel/Gaubert). You can't separate music from technique. They go together and without musicality in your technique, it simply doesn't work. I however have given too much emphasis to the musicality part and my technique needed some cleaning (hence a lot of scales and arpeggios in the past few months). It's amazing to see/hear them work together when they are equal partners!

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fluteguy18 wrote:'The Artist as Technician.'

Original Subject! (There ARE Private Messages on here for stuff like the above...).

I agree with Debost. This philosophy is exactly what my primary teacher has always taught me, and what her teacher (Doriot Dwyer) had taught her, and what her teacher had taught her (Georges Barerre), and what his had taught him (Taffanel/Gaubert). You can't separate music from technique. They go together and without musicality in your technique, it simply doesn't work. I however have given too much emphasis to the musicality part and my technique needed some cleaning (hence a lot of scales and arpeggios in the past few months). It's amazing to see/hear them work together when they are equal partners!
i apologise for our "slight" rabbit trail lol ^^' yes, you cant isolate them. very cool that you are in a line of gaubert! be proud! :)
Life is like a musical instrument...

What you get out of it,

Depends on how you play it.

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