Kim, did you get my post about your
daughter starting to learn the keyboard? It's in your address to Whistler.
Jenny
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Middle-aged flute player wannabees
[:p] Good idea Karen. I'd hate to
think of myself as middle aged at 33!. But what would you change it to? Anyone
with any ideas? Or is it like Shakespeare says, "A rose by any other name smells
as sweet."
think of myself as middle aged at 33!. But what would you change it to? Anyone
with any ideas? Or is it like Shakespeare says, "A rose by any other name smells
as sweet."
Happy
learning Happy playing Happy being!
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Middle-aged flute player wannabees
Hi Jenny~ Yes I got your post and I
replied? [;)] Kim
replied? [;)] Kim
Some
days you catch the bus and other days it runs over you.
days you catch the bus and other days it runs over you.
Middle-aged flute player wannabees
Ha! Well, at 41 I don't consider
myself middle-aged yet, so you can't POSSIBLY be there yet at 33! I think
there's a proverb that goes something like, "The older the fiddler, the sweeter
the tune". I like to think that's true of flute players too...and of life in
general! As for a new name for our group...I'll work on it!
myself middle-aged yet, so you can't POSSIBLY be there yet at 33! I think
there's a proverb that goes something like, "The older the fiddler, the sweeter
the tune". I like to think that's true of flute players too...and of life in
general! As for a new name for our group...I'll work on it!
Middle-aged flute player wannabees
I'm Louisa and I've just started
flute lessons after a long time away from them. I've been playing the flute on
and off since I was twelve years old. I'm now 31. This time I really want to
make a good go of it and do all my exams!! I have three children and they're at
school/playschool respectively so I have a bit of time on my hands to practice
my flute. [;)]
flute lessons after a long time away from them. I've been playing the flute on
and off since I was twelve years old. I'm now 31. This time I really want to
make a good go of it and do all my exams!! I have three children and they're at
school/playschool respectively so I have a bit of time on my hands to practice
my flute. [;)]
Middle-aged flute player wannabees
I began to play the flute at my 59
birthday. I enjoy every moment.It isn't easy, but I'm getting better. I played
the acordeon when I was 12-16. I had a dream to play the flute. Now when I'm
retired,I can do what I like. So for my 59 birthday I got a flute from my
husband. My best audience are my grandaughters ( 4 & 2 years old). It's never
too late.
birthday. I enjoy every moment.It isn't easy, but I'm getting better. I played
the acordeon when I was 12-16. I had a dream to play the flute. Now when I'm
retired,I can do what I like. So for my 59 birthday I got a flute from my
husband. My best audience are my grandaughters ( 4 & 2 years old). It's never
too late.
r.p
Middle-aged flute player wannabees
Good for you Kuka! You're never too
old to try something new. In his retirement, I'm trying to get my Dad to take
up his accordion again. The problem, as he puts it, is that his accordion has
put on weight since he was a young man with stronger arms and back! Hmmm...maybe
I should teach him how to play the flute! Are you teaching yourself or taking
lessons?
old to try something new. In his retirement, I'm trying to get my Dad to take
up his accordion again. The problem, as he puts it, is that his accordion has
put on weight since he was a young man with stronger arms and back! Hmmm...maybe
I should teach him how to play the flute! Are you teaching yourself or taking
lessons?
Middle-aged flute player wannabees
Weird - this posted twice - just
removing the duplication.
removing the duplication.
Middle-aged flute player wannabees
I didn't want to post in this
thread, because I didn't quite fit all the criteria. However, since I saw that
it was a popular one I started reading some of the entires. First of all I am 43
years old and have been playing the flute non-stop for 35 years. I have been
playing professionally for most of those 35 years. so I slightly fit the
catagory. when reading the entires, I happened upon Willi's posts and had some
good laughs. I witnessed how he turned the relatively innocent conversation into
a soap box for his ego. One has to wonder why an individual would tell a bunch
of amateur flute players what a "friggin" genius he was. Would Einstein posted
here? I think not. He had better things to do. Besides, Isn't that what Mensa
is for?? for all the lost geniuses out there with no place to call home. Get it
"Men" sa.. I am a man and have had countless roomates and housemates tell me how
they had a high IQ and belonged to Mensa. This is nothing but ego. One of my
housemates even claimed he had 95% memory retention. so, when he forgot to pay
his rent I always figured it was the 5% at work(Ha Ha). Well let me start by
punching a few holes in Willi's Music Theories. I hope he writes back. Ok Penny
you got the IQ one. For the administrators concerns I will quickly go to the
flute and music related issues. Spectrum Analysing a flute piece. The problem
here is that when you play through a microphone the actual tone of the flute is
changed into an electrical signal. Depending on the kind of mic, ampification
and a myriad of other affects, you will have a quite different wave form than
the one you would have if you were standing in front of an actual flute player.
Jazz singers used to say that a microphone is not an amplification device but a
vocal enhancer. A tool now doubt. During a piece of music, the flute is
constantly changing its tone. Willi would have to have the tune down "Exactly"
as the original flautist played it to match the wave patterns. If the piece was
with continuo, there would be a confusion of different wave patterns. In other
words Spectrum Analysis woulld be a glorius waste of time. with talent like
Willis' all you would have to do is buy a CD and take tunes of by ear. . Now
for a comparrison to this type of idiot savant talent I offer this , My high
school was next to the blind school of my state. there were two musicians from
the blind school that were involved with the jazz band.. One was a woman named
diane Schuur, now a professional jazz singer. Some of you may have heard of her
because she has been on the radio. the other was a man named Brent Jefferies.
this kid was severly mentally retarded, you could not have a conversation with
him. he would severly rock back and forth with one hand in front of his face
occasionally blurting out short sentences that would make no sense. The amazing
thing was that he played jazz piano. he could listen to a recording once and
play back the piano part exactly like it was played. Even if there were mistakes
in the recording, he would play back the mistakes exactly like they were
played.. you would say Ok Brent play T. Monk. He would play exactly like T.
Monk. Oscar Peterson, he would play exactly like Oscar Peterson, on and on and
on one after another. the problem is however, he couldn't come up with stuff on
his own. he couldn't create his own improvisation. He surely couldn't write
music. That part of the brain is different so one could say he was a genius, but
was he one?. He had an extremely low IQ. In other words he was a human recording
machine. This was a "real" idiot savant. I have played music with one. so, that
comes down to what we call a genius. Even though Willi claims that in no time he
could have a chair position in an Orchestra, this does not take a genius.
Players in Orchestras are not geniuses. They are for the most part, "talented
people who worked hard" Most of them simply read music well. Willi has claimed
that he can't read a "lick" of music. that would be a major concern during an
audition, since you would be asked to sight read. Willi could claim that he
could pick up the part by ear. From what?? this brings up the Ozzy to Segovia
thing. One Ozzy can't play the guitar. Two Segovia read music. I think what you
have here is Willi coming up with something that to him sounds like Segovia, so
therefore he can play Segovia. The Question is, if Willi could play like segovia
why would he be teaching challented kids. Because he is a great samaritan? I
din't get that feeling during his posts. A genius is someone who transcends all
the regular skills and creates new ones. I am not sure I would even put Mozart
in that catagory. Obvoiusly Willi watched the movie Amadeus too many times and
dreamcasts himself as Mozart, the poor unapreciated genius that everyone was
jealous of. he even puts Penny in this role..Anyone who disagrees with Willi is
Soliarie Mozart was highly talented but broke no new ground (I know this is a
controversial subject). Most of his pieces are based upon the same chords, with
similar melodic ideas repeated in many pieces. I have even seen the same exact
melodies repeated in several different pieces of Mozart. He could write without
the piano, maybe we don't know that for sure, remember it is only a movie.
because he all the rules and melodies in his head. Being a jazz musician and
improvising is creating melodies on the spot. It doesn't take a genius On the
other hand, Bach, in my opinion was a genius. He re-wrote the rules of
counterpoint. Now as far as getting music published. Anyone can get music
published. You could record yourself snorting, farting and coughing, call it a
song and get it published. If Willi can't read music then he is most likely
just writing songs. I think someone by the name of Kurt Cobain could do the
same. Now was he a genius?. some may think so. Now what about all the other
guitar/songwriters out there. do you have any idea how many of them there are
out there. Millions. so even though Willi may be able to "compose" as he puts
it, he may not actually be able to compose something good. so, even though Willi
may have the ability to learn quickly and pick up instruments fast(what happened
with the trombone, why didn't your edison theory work on that instrument?) by
the way Edison wasn't a genius either, I have proof. He was just in the right
place at the right time and may have even stolen a few ideas. Maybe he was a
Soliarie. There is a great PBS special on Edison and the early days of
electrical devices that briefly touches upon this. I have more to say on this
subject this whole subject but I will wait for Willi's response, I will post
this one as it is. Now if I were Willi and I was reading this and I had his ego,
I would get a little flustered and challenge me to a dual at dawn with the Mensa
IQ tests. Ha Ha. Irishgirl, I perhaps didn't read Penny's flustered responses
because she deleted them, but Willi has a few flustered ones of his own Bottom
line. Why would a genius post that he was a genius on a site that primarily for
young students and adults who just enjoy playing the flute as a past-time. . but
Willi these people aren't trying to change the world. I await your response.
thread, because I didn't quite fit all the criteria. However, since I saw that
it was a popular one I started reading some of the entires. First of all I am 43
years old and have been playing the flute non-stop for 35 years. I have been
playing professionally for most of those 35 years. so I slightly fit the
catagory. when reading the entires, I happened upon Willi's posts and had some
good laughs. I witnessed how he turned the relatively innocent conversation into
a soap box for his ego. One has to wonder why an individual would tell a bunch
of amateur flute players what a "friggin" genius he was. Would Einstein posted
here? I think not. He had better things to do. Besides, Isn't that what Mensa
is for?? for all the lost geniuses out there with no place to call home. Get it
"Men" sa.. I am a man and have had countless roomates and housemates tell me how
they had a high IQ and belonged to Mensa. This is nothing but ego. One of my
housemates even claimed he had 95% memory retention. so, when he forgot to pay
his rent I always figured it was the 5% at work(Ha Ha). Well let me start by
punching a few holes in Willi's Music Theories. I hope he writes back. Ok Penny
you got the IQ one. For the administrators concerns I will quickly go to the
flute and music related issues. Spectrum Analysing a flute piece. The problem
here is that when you play through a microphone the actual tone of the flute is
changed into an electrical signal. Depending on the kind of mic, ampification
and a myriad of other affects, you will have a quite different wave form than
the one you would have if you were standing in front of an actual flute player.
Jazz singers used to say that a microphone is not an amplification device but a
vocal enhancer. A tool now doubt. During a piece of music, the flute is
constantly changing its tone. Willi would have to have the tune down "Exactly"
as the original flautist played it to match the wave patterns. If the piece was
with continuo, there would be a confusion of different wave patterns. In other
words Spectrum Analysis woulld be a glorius waste of time. with talent like
Willis' all you would have to do is buy a CD and take tunes of by ear. . Now
for a comparrison to this type of idiot savant talent I offer this , My high
school was next to the blind school of my state. there were two musicians from
the blind school that were involved with the jazz band.. One was a woman named
diane Schuur, now a professional jazz singer. Some of you may have heard of her
because she has been on the radio. the other was a man named Brent Jefferies.
this kid was severly mentally retarded, you could not have a conversation with
him. he would severly rock back and forth with one hand in front of his face
occasionally blurting out short sentences that would make no sense. The amazing
thing was that he played jazz piano. he could listen to a recording once and
play back the piano part exactly like it was played. Even if there were mistakes
in the recording, he would play back the mistakes exactly like they were
played.. you would say Ok Brent play T. Monk. He would play exactly like T.
Monk. Oscar Peterson, he would play exactly like Oscar Peterson, on and on and
on one after another. the problem is however, he couldn't come up with stuff on
his own. he couldn't create his own improvisation. He surely couldn't write
music. That part of the brain is different so one could say he was a genius, but
was he one?. He had an extremely low IQ. In other words he was a human recording
machine. This was a "real" idiot savant. I have played music with one. so, that
comes down to what we call a genius. Even though Willi claims that in no time he
could have a chair position in an Orchestra, this does not take a genius.
Players in Orchestras are not geniuses. They are for the most part, "talented
people who worked hard" Most of them simply read music well. Willi has claimed
that he can't read a "lick" of music. that would be a major concern during an
audition, since you would be asked to sight read. Willi could claim that he
could pick up the part by ear. From what?? this brings up the Ozzy to Segovia
thing. One Ozzy can't play the guitar. Two Segovia read music. I think what you
have here is Willi coming up with something that to him sounds like Segovia, so
therefore he can play Segovia. The Question is, if Willi could play like segovia
why would he be teaching challented kids. Because he is a great samaritan? I
din't get that feeling during his posts. A genius is someone who transcends all
the regular skills and creates new ones. I am not sure I would even put Mozart
in that catagory. Obvoiusly Willi watched the movie Amadeus too many times and
dreamcasts himself as Mozart, the poor unapreciated genius that everyone was
jealous of. he even puts Penny in this role..Anyone who disagrees with Willi is
Soliarie Mozart was highly talented but broke no new ground (I know this is a
controversial subject). Most of his pieces are based upon the same chords, with
similar melodic ideas repeated in many pieces. I have even seen the same exact
melodies repeated in several different pieces of Mozart. He could write without
the piano, maybe we don't know that for sure, remember it is only a movie.
because he all the rules and melodies in his head. Being a jazz musician and
improvising is creating melodies on the spot. It doesn't take a genius On the
other hand, Bach, in my opinion was a genius. He re-wrote the rules of
counterpoint. Now as far as getting music published. Anyone can get music
published. You could record yourself snorting, farting and coughing, call it a
song and get it published. If Willi can't read music then he is most likely
just writing songs. I think someone by the name of Kurt Cobain could do the
same. Now was he a genius?. some may think so. Now what about all the other
guitar/songwriters out there. do you have any idea how many of them there are
out there. Millions. so even though Willi may be able to "compose" as he puts
it, he may not actually be able to compose something good. so, even though Willi
may have the ability to learn quickly and pick up instruments fast(what happened
with the trombone, why didn't your edison theory work on that instrument?) by
the way Edison wasn't a genius either, I have proof. He was just in the right
place at the right time and may have even stolen a few ideas. Maybe he was a
Soliarie. There is a great PBS special on Edison and the early days of
electrical devices that briefly touches upon this. I have more to say on this
subject this whole subject but I will wait for Willi's response, I will post
this one as it is. Now if I were Willi and I was reading this and I had his ego,
I would get a little flustered and challenge me to a dual at dawn with the Mensa
IQ tests. Ha Ha. Irishgirl, I perhaps didn't read Penny's flustered responses
because she deleted them, but Willi has a few flustered ones of his own Bottom
line. Why would a genius post that he was a genius on a site that primarily for
young students and adults who just enjoy playing the flute as a past-time. . but
Willi these people aren't trying to change the world. I await your response.
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Middle-aged flute player wannabees
Getting back to the original subject
(heh-heh), I'm 46 and have been fooling around with flute for about a year.
Learning at my own pace, self-taught, playing for my own pleasure. Played
harmonica semi-professionally for about 15 years (read: paid gigs but working a
day job). Always wanted to get into the woodwinds, and flute seems to be a good
way to start. Not that accomplished at it -- my octave-switching is about as
smooth as gravel -- but I am getting the tone I want and can improvise on the
instrument. Although my wife digs it when I play flute, my ability is still not
ready for human consumption. For listening, I key on the jazz masters -- Lateef,
Laws, and Eric Dolphy. My favorite, though, would have to be Rahsaan Roland
Kirk. His flute work is definitely out there! (Take a listen to his "I Talk With
The Spirits" CD; you'll see what I mean!)
(heh-heh), I'm 46 and have been fooling around with flute for about a year.
Learning at my own pace, self-taught, playing for my own pleasure. Played
harmonica semi-professionally for about 15 years (read: paid gigs but working a
day job). Always wanted to get into the woodwinds, and flute seems to be a good
way to start. Not that accomplished at it -- my octave-switching is about as
smooth as gravel -- but I am getting the tone I want and can improvise on the
instrument. Although my wife digs it when I play flute, my ability is still not
ready for human consumption. For listening, I key on the jazz masters -- Lateef,
Laws, and Eric Dolphy. My favorite, though, would have to be Rahsaan Roland
Kirk. His flute work is definitely out there! (Take a listen to his "I Talk With
The Spirits" CD; you'll see what I mean!)
"Of course I hear voices ... and they have some real good ideas!"
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sara_mrvica
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Middle-aged flute player wannabees
wow!! i didnt know that many ppl in
this forum are middle aged people who play flute!!! thats really cool! [:sun:]
ahh but i need to ask advice from u more experienced people... i started playing
flute 2 years ago but i want to major flute in college.. and i really really
*officially* want to become a flautist! is it advisable?
this forum are middle aged people who play flute!!! thats really cool! [:sun:]
ahh but i need to ask advice from u more experienced people... i started playing
flute 2 years ago but i want to major flute in college.. and i really really
*officially* want to become a flautist! is it advisable?
~Miss
Fab Flute~
Fab Flute~
Re: Middle-aged flute player wannabees
I know I am a little late in responding to this thread... but shame shame on that teacher who discouraged your efforts to make music when you were in school!! Were you given a reason? I hope you truly enjoy your music now. I believe that anyone can enbrace and discover the musicianship within...we don't have to begin lessons at five...all we need is the song in our hearts and the desire, courage, and means to sing/play our songs out loud!Crazy wrote:I've been lurking in the background
reading everyone's hints until I saw this thread....I am a first time flute
player at the age of 36. I've wanted to play the flute since I was in high
school but my schools band teacher would not even let me try! My husband plays
the guitar(he hadn't played for 10 years and returned 4 years ago) & my son has
been taking drum lessons for 3 years now and doing very well in band class in
school. My husband bought me a flute (Gemeinhardt 2SP after returning a Jean
Baptiste FL-92S Flute since it wouldn't get in tune) a little over a month ago
without even knowing if I could play. I've been taking lessons and having a
ball learning. [:)] My instructor's thrilled with my progress and has had to
remind me a few times that I've only been playing a month. BTW Hello everyone.
those who hear not the music think the dancers mad
Re: Middle-aged flute player wannabees
Dear Kuka,kuka wrote:I began to play the flute at my 59
birthday. I enjoy every moment.It isn't easy, but I'm getting better. I played
the acordeon when I was 12-16. I had a dream to play the flute. Now when I'm
retired,I can do what I like. So for my 59 birthday I got a flute from my
husband. My best audience are my grandaughters ( 4 & 2 years old). It's never
too late.
What a wonderful post! I might quote your story...as I think it will inspire others! I currently teach movement and dance to adults (aged 55 and older). I have one amazing student who is 92!
Keep playing...your grandaughters are so lucky to have such a grandma! My grandmother actually took piano lessons with me when I was in high school. It was really challenging for her as she had never read music...but I was so happy to be learning piano with my grandmother and actually my aunt... we all three were learning together...none of us are piano prodigies, but I sure have some nice memories..we three playing together and talking about our lessons.
I eventually inherited the very piano(which we had our wekly lessons on and practiced upon, and sang around at Christmas time) which was originally given to my grandfather when he was just a boy. .the entire room (where the piano stands) seems filled with this warm glow of musical possibility...of my family...and the left over traces of songs sung long ago by my favourite music makers..and really ...for me...my memories..like music ..and grandmas..and aunts...and daughters...(my own daughter now plays and sings at this same piano) are priceless.
Keep making music with your grand daughters:) and someday they will remember your wonderful songs and make music with their own daughters and grand daughters
those who hear not the music think the dancers mad
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I too played flute in jr high and high school. I even made first chair in high school. Long story short, my flute was stolen and my mother couldn't afford another one. So I had to give it up. A few weeks ago I was listening to Mozarts concerto for flute and harp k299. I realized how much I missed playing the flute. My husband bought me a brand spanking new flute for christmas. I was so excited he knew that I couldn't wait until christmas so he gave it to me early. I have to say it was kind of like riding a bike. You never really forget even if you do get a little rusty. 
I'm now 37 and haven't touched a flute since I was 17. I'm new to this board so I just really wanted to say hi! And good luck!
I'm now 37 and haven't touched a flute since I was 17. I'm new to this board so I just really wanted to say hi! And good luck!