Notes above G6 sound horrible

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sinebar
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Notes above G6 sound horrible

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Is it possible to get notes above G6 to sound good? I've been working on A6 and B6 and they are shrill. I can't hardly bare to play B6. I'm thinking that maybe you need a really good flute for these notes but I just don't know.

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Post by fluteguy18 »

because of the pitch, those notes are almost always going to be piercing, however, it is possible to get them to sound quite nice. But, it takes a lot of practice, and sometimes the engineering of the flute the player is playing on, dictates how difficult it is to get the notes to sound pleasant. But, dont get me wrong on this. An amazing flute wont sound amazing unless there is a good player using the instrument. A student flute can sound amazing if played by a talented musician. Practice makes perfect, and brick by brick is how Rome was built.

So keep practicing, and sooner or later, they will become pleasant [although still very high pitched].

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Post by sinebar »

fluteguy18 wrote:because of the pitch, those notes are almost always going to be piercing, however, it is possible to get them to sound quite nice. But, it takes a lot of practice, and sometimes the engineering of the flute the player is playing on, dictates how difficult it is to get the notes to sound pleasant. But, dont get me wrong on this. An amazing flute wont sound amazing unless there is a good player using the instrument. A student flute can sound amazing if played by a talented musician. Practice makes perfect, and brick by brick is how Rome was built.

So keep practicing, and sooner or later, they will become pleasant [although still very high pitched].
Thanks Fluteguy. I would like to hear James Galway play these notes. I bet he could make them sound peasant enough to listin to.

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Post by Iolaus »

fluteguy18 wrote:
...So keep practicing, and sooner or later, they will become pleasant [although still very high pitched].
What he said. High notes are more about the focus and direction of the air stream than the velocity of the air. It takes a long while to develop the embouchure needed to hit them sweetly.

Don't try to do it all at once; add a note at a time and practice scales and exercises to that point 'til you're comfortable, then add the next step. If you move too fast, you risk developing bad habits that will be hard to break (over-blowing to hit the note, for instance).

...and a last thought. I mentioned to my teacher how practicing the extreme highs (C#, D, D#) had made the Bs & C "much more comfortable to play - still not sweet, but comfortable," and she said something to the effect that the only ones who truly play sweetly in the highest range are the real pros - the ones who practice 4, 5, 6+ hours a day; so don't feel to bad about slow progress, as long as there's some progress. :wink:

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Post by sinebar »

Iolaus wrote:
fluteguy18 wrote:
...So keep practicing, and sooner or later, they will become pleasant [although still very high pitched].
What he said. High notes are more about the focus and direction of the air stream than the velocity of the air. It takes a long while to develop the embouchure needed to hit them sweetly.

Don't try to do it all at once; add a note at a time and practice scales and exercises to that point 'til you're comfortable, then add the next step. If you move too fast, you risk developing bad habits that will be hard to break (over-blowing to hit the note, for instance).

...and a last thought. I mentioned to my teacher how practicing the extreme highs (C#, D, D#) had made the Bs & C "much more comfortable to play - still not sweet, but comfortable," and she said something to the effect that the only ones who truly play sweetly in the highest range are the real pros - the ones who practice 4, 5, 6+ hours a day; so don't feel to bad about slow progress, as long as there's some progress. :wink:
My teacher has me working out of E. Wagner foundation to flute playing and this book is brutal. It's constantly going up there and I think I have had about enough of it. My throat is sore from working in this book.

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Post by candi »

On piano, middle C is C4 - on flute it's generally referred to as C1, & on up. So there is no C6 on the flute.

Candi

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Post by vampav8trix »

Play long tones and focus on the tone of the notes.

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Post by comtessedebergerac »

vampav8trix wrote:Play long tones and focus on the tone of the notes.

Don't play too loud and be very carefull about the pitch in high notes.. The speed of the air stream makes them way too sharp most of the time...hence uncomfortable to listen to.

Practice very carefully your muscle training of the lips for flexibility and control...
music is beauty, and beauty needs patience...

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