Difficultly with Vibratos.
Moderators: Classitar, pied_piper, Phineas
Difficultly with Vibratos.
Actually, I don't know how to do a vibrato. How do I?
-
fluttiegurl
- Posts: 882
- Joined: Fri Dec 10, 2004 11:05 pm
This is a very hard subject for many flute players, while others just "make it happen". First, I would suggest finding a good teacher who can watch/listen to you play and explain the process face to face. One thing that I do with all of my students is have them listen to recordings of professional players (Rhonda Larson, James Gallway, Gary Shocker to name a few of my favorites). This will give you an idea of a sound that you like, no 2 players are the same, then you will have a basis to start. Here is a link that may help you get started. Good luck!
http://www.fluteline.com/Learning_vibrato.htm
http://www.fluteline.com/Learning_vibrato.htm
-
powayflute01
- Posts: 201
- Joined: Mon Dec 08, 2003 7:29 pm
- Contact:
Well my teacher is teaching me a new technique which isnt recommended or known to many people yet, and yu'd think im crazy. But i have to "tongue" appregios and scales with my throat, like i am coughing. And i do that (not very hard tho, just a soft cough) until i can do it fast, then i make it softer and softer till its not there, but the air still gets slightly slower and faster etc etc...and viola...but im not ther yet, that's just wat is supposed to happen.
Best idea is to just get a teacher to teach you, and it takes a while, lotsa patience
*edit* this doesn't seem to basic to me...
Best idea is to just get a teacher to teach you, and it takes a while, lotsa patience
*edit* this doesn't seem to basic to me...
-
pandagirl11
- Posts: 78
- Joined: Thu Sep 02, 2004 5:49 pm
I'm lucky, my teacher said that vibrato just kind of "happened" for me. But I did have to fine tune it a bit. I started off by saying "hahahaha" and laughing into the flute but that just made weird noises. =P Then, I actually breathed and went "hahaha" while I breathed and now, I'm just working on getting the vibrato to move faster. =)
That's funny. I'm working on not using vibrato. I'm trying to learn to learn a lot of tradtional music right now, and vibrato is considered out of place, and I was doing it from the minute I picked up the flute. Breaking up is hard to do.
I'm going to recomend something different, but it might not work. I'm an amature, and certianly have never taught anyone anything about playing the flute.
Technically speaking, vibrato is accoplished by the slight, but rapid fluctuation in the air speed against the emboucher. This is done by making your diaphram quiver. Mine does this automatically when I am about to run out of air, because the muscel is pushing so hard to get that last bit of air out that it begins to shake (the same way your arms might shake if you try to lift something really heavy). I've been a singer for many years, so I suppose I probably developed diaphram control without thinking about it. You might need to to work on flexing it (breath the way you would when you shiver). eventually the muscle aught to develope to the point where you make it quiver as slowly or as quickly as you like.
BUT!!
Vibrato is not something that I feel you can practice as you would scales or appegios. There are movments that need to be learned, but it seems like with young flute players there is a good deal of vibrato that needs to be "unlearned". They have a very rapid, breathy, constant, and annoying vibrato. This is also true with many young guitar players (my forté), except the breathy part. I've not yet been successful in finding a "breathy" sounding guitar player. If you find one, please tell him that he needs to find a different approach.
The problem is that vibrato is almost like a signature, If you ever ever become a famous flute player, people will reconize you by the way you use vibrato. You can practice techniqes, but you have to have your ears turned one the whole time. "Does this sound like I want it to sound in my head?"
Vibrato is one of the key creative elements that a performer adds to a peice of music, and you have to hear it inside of you before you can make it come out. I don't want to underscore the importance of developing technique, but at the end of the day, music is still all about expression. I think this is especially important when practising vibrato.
The same can be said of good tone (infact, the two are usually inseperably linked on most instruments capable of vibrato).
I'm going to recomend something different, but it might not work. I'm an amature, and certianly have never taught anyone anything about playing the flute.
Technically speaking, vibrato is accoplished by the slight, but rapid fluctuation in the air speed against the emboucher. This is done by making your diaphram quiver. Mine does this automatically when I am about to run out of air, because the muscel is pushing so hard to get that last bit of air out that it begins to shake (the same way your arms might shake if you try to lift something really heavy). I've been a singer for many years, so I suppose I probably developed diaphram control without thinking about it. You might need to to work on flexing it (breath the way you would when you shiver). eventually the muscle aught to develope to the point where you make it quiver as slowly or as quickly as you like.
BUT!!
Vibrato is not something that I feel you can practice as you would scales or appegios. There are movments that need to be learned, but it seems like with young flute players there is a good deal of vibrato that needs to be "unlearned". They have a very rapid, breathy, constant, and annoying vibrato. This is also true with many young guitar players (my forté), except the breathy part. I've not yet been successful in finding a "breathy" sounding guitar player. If you find one, please tell him that he needs to find a different approach.
The problem is that vibrato is almost like a signature, If you ever ever become a famous flute player, people will reconize you by the way you use vibrato. You can practice techniqes, but you have to have your ears turned one the whole time. "Does this sound like I want it to sound in my head?"
Vibrato is one of the key creative elements that a performer adds to a peice of music, and you have to hear it inside of you before you can make it come out. I don't want to underscore the importance of developing technique, but at the end of the day, music is still all about expression. I think this is especially important when practising vibrato.
The same can be said of good tone (infact, the two are usually inseperably linked on most instruments capable of vibrato).
How did I get here?