50 flutes? You all were very lucky. We played it in our Wind Ensemble here at EKU, and we only had one person to a part [ one 1st flute, one 2nd flute, one 1st clarinet, one 2nd clarinet etc. etc.]. So, that made it very difficult. But, it turned out really well, and we made a recording of it, and it will be available on CD next year [with several other pieces, among which, one piece I am playing harp ]deina-kun wrote:Yeah, we played it at an Honor Band last year with around 50 flutes on it, and a lot of them were complaning about it cuz it wasn't really the most exciting thing to play. But then, we played Royal Fireworks a few years before that and it's not as bad as getting "Tacet"ed the whole first movement.fluteguy18 wrote:Elegy..... tough piece. Even though it isnt technically difficult, having all of those sustained tones and getting tuning and intonation to match well, is very difficult. I particularly disliked the low note on the second page that the flutes had to sustain for over a minute.... It is a nice piece, but I dont enjoy playing it at all.
Variations on a Korean Folk Song
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Ohh, one to a part would've been really hard.fluteguy18 wrote:50 flutes? You all were very lucky. We played it in our Wind Ensemble here at EKU, and we only had one person to a part [ one 1st flute, one 2nd flute, one 1st clarinet, one 2nd clarinet etc. etc.]. So, that made it very difficult. But, it turned out really well, and we made a recording of it, and it will be available on CD next year [with several other pieces, among which, one piece I am playing harp ]deina-kun wrote:Yeah, we played it at an Honor Band last year with around 50 flutes on it, and a lot of them were complaning about it cuz it wasn't really the most exciting thing to play. But then, we played Royal Fireworks a few years before that and it's not as bad as getting "Tacet"ed the whole first movement.fluteguy18 wrote:Elegy..... tough piece. Even though it isnt technically difficult, having all of those sustained tones and getting tuning and intonation to match well, is very difficult. I particularly disliked the low note on the second page that the flutes had to sustain for over a minute.... It is a nice piece, but I dont enjoy playing it at all.
When I played it, it was at an open Honor Band, so anyone could join. We just got lucky that year and managed to have 50 flutists interested in joining. The year before that (2005), we had around 80 flutes playing Bach's Toccata and Fugue in D minor; that was really fun, hehe. Tuning each of us for half an hour is something I'll never forget. :]
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Tuning aside, it would seem to me that 50 flutes would create a major problem with balance within the ensemble. How does an open honor band work? Generally honor groups are fully auditioned (which is where the honor comes from).deina-kun wrote:Ohh, one to a part would've been really hard.fluteguy18 wrote:50 flutes? You all were very lucky. We played it in our Wind Ensemble here at EKU, and we only had one person to a part [ one 1st flute, one 2nd flute, one 1st clarinet, one 2nd clarinet etc. etc.]. So, that made it very difficult. But, it turned out really well, and we made a recording of it, and it will be available on CD next year [with several other pieces, among which, one piece I am playing harp ]deina-kun wrote: Yeah, we played it at an Honor Band last year with around 50 flutes on it, and a lot of them were complaning about it cuz it wasn't really the most exciting thing to play. But then, we played Royal Fireworks a few years before that and it's not as bad as getting "Tacet"ed the whole first movement.
When I played it, it was at an open Honor Band, so anyone could join. We just got lucky that year and managed to have 50 flutists interested in joining. The year before that (2005), we had around 80 flutes playing Bach's Toccata and Fugue in D minor; that was really fun, hehe. Tuning each of us for half an hour is something I'll never forget. :]
True, there's Honor coming from the audition process. I guess it's not really considered an "Honor Band", but the philosophy the head conductor had in putting it together was to give musicians an opportunity to play with other musicians who share the same love of music they do. (Long story short, he made this band because he got tired of his students who he thought were worthy of getting into X Honor Band only to get rejected.) Most of the attendees are first chairs in their bands and have attended "audition only" or "recommendation only" honor bands, as well. There are also some college students who come, so this gives youngers players a chance to talk to them about continuing music in college and other stuff. There was even a 40 year old trombonist who joined one year to play the low brass part in Rolling Thunder. A 6th grade boy playing French Horn has been joining us the past two years.. he's doing pretty well playing the pieces, too. So there's no age restriction, either. It's an endurance test, though.. We get the music before hand (4-8 pieces), but the weekend of the concert is a Fri-10hr rehearsal, Sat-14hr rehearsal, and Sun-5hr rehearsal. It's really fun, and a lot of people get a lot out of it, especially growing more as a musician. The "honor" in this band would probably be from the musicians' dedication and interest in music. There have been different views about it, being non-audition and not really an "Honor Band", but it's really a worthwhile experience, especially since some of the kids don't get the challenge of playing music their band might not have the chance to. (Esprit de Corps, Canzona, Country Gardens, Pas Redouble, Praise Jerusalem!, numerous Alfred Reed, Bach, and Wagner pieces among a few.)flutepicc06 wrote:Tuning aside, it would seem to me that 50 flutes would create a major problem with balance within the ensemble. How does an open honor band work? Generally honor groups are fully auditioned (which is where the honor comes from).deina-kun wrote:Ohh, one to a part would've been really hard.fluteguy18 wrote: 50 flutes? You all were very lucky. We played it in our Wind Ensemble here at EKU, and we only had one person to a part [ one 1st flute, one 2nd flute, one 1st clarinet, one 2nd clarinet etc. etc.]. So, that made it very difficult. But, it turned out really well, and we made a recording of it, and it will be available on CD next year [with several other pieces, among which, one piece I am playing harp ]
When I played it, it was at an open Honor Band, so anyone could join. We just got lucky that year and managed to have 50 flutists interested in joining. The year before that (2005), we had around 80 flutes playing Bach's Toccata and Fugue in D minor; that was really fun, hehe. Tuning each of us for half an hour is something I'll never forget. :]
Elegy was played in 2006 and it were 230 performers. Toccata (2004, sorry for the typo) was 298-300? I forget the numbers. We settled down to 130 this year, though. I'm uploading recordings as I find my CDs.
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Re: Variations on a Korean Folk Song
Oh, I've heard good things from that song. That a lot of people enjoyed playing it. Although, I'm the one who has never played it. Lol. I was wondering if maybe you could email a scanned copy to me? Sorry if that's asking too much. ^^FltnPicc_David wrote:Has anyone ever played this? I love it! Our band is going to play it this year. The only part I hate is in the variation marked Larghetto. [This is where the oboe solo is.] The flutes have this beautiful part but I play piccolo part, which is COMPLETELY excluded from it so i sit there in envy. [Lol]
Anyways, my question was during the Vivace variation, their is that run. Well there are a series of consecutive sixteenth note runs that are
D-natural to E-flat OVER AND OVER again. Would it be okay just to trill this section witht eh two trill keys? (The ones utilized in 3rd octave B-flat and B-natural)
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Re: Variations on a Korean Folk Song
It may not be asking too much, but it's more than likely illegal. Sheet music is protected by copyright law, and transmitting copies of it without the express consent of whoever owns the rights is illegal if it falls under the protection of copyright law (I believe anything after 1923 is protected). Technically, band directors aren't even supposed to photocopy parts of protected music to hand out to their players. Besides being illegal, it actually hurts the music community, as handing out free copies of music means that the distributors sell less, so they raise their prices to compensate, and we all end up paying more. Yes, this is a small example, but all the small examples begin to add up. Just something to think about.flute.loops16 wrote:Oh, I've heard good things from that song. That a lot of people enjoyed playing it. Although, I'm the one who has never played it. Lol. I was wondering if maybe you could email a scanned copy to me? Sorry if that's asking too much. ^^FltnPicc_David wrote:Has anyone ever played this? I love it! Our band is going to play it this year. The only part I hate is in the variation marked Larghetto. [This is where the oboe solo is.] The flutes have this beautiful part but I play piccolo part, which is COMPLETELY excluded from it so i sit there in envy. [Lol]
Anyways, my question was during the Vivace variation, their is that run. Well there are a series of consecutive sixteenth note runs that are
D-natural to E-flat OVER AND OVER again. Would it be okay just to trill this section witht eh two trill keys? (The ones utilized in 3rd octave B-flat and B-natural)
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we're playing that right now...ugh. Just getting to the runs area...could give the world a headache. (although I play picc too, I keep a flute part so I play during those few measures since there is plenty of time to switch. I need to keep doing that because I haven't gotten the constant switching quite down yet) But I can actually get that out right now...
oh darn. I left it in my locker.
well in that case, I'd look at it, but I'm going on a weekend trip tomorrow, so I wouldn't be able to get a chance until sunday. Let's see how much I can remember...I would guess it would be ok...I'll try it tomorrow and see how it goes.
At least it's somewhat easier than incantation and dance...the trumpets really botched up the recording with their entrance after our soli and the percussion on the first page...
oh darn. I left it in my locker.
well in that case, I'd look at it, but I'm going on a weekend trip tomorrow, so I wouldn't be able to get a chance until sunday. Let's see how much I can remember...I would guess it would be ok...I'll try it tomorrow and see how it goes.
At least it's somewhat easier than incantation and dance...the trumpets really botched up the recording with their entrance after our soli and the percussion on the first page...
Cool! I'm half Korean.remnantpark wrote:I know this is completely off topic but I love Arirang! I'm Korean myself...
Arirang is the only Korean folk song most Korean kids know (at least in Hawaii where I grew up), and I'm no different. I learned it from my mother.
I didn't know it had been given the classical treatment.
Cool. I'll have to go find a recording of it now.
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I can't say much because it's been nine years since HS for me...... but I did play this my senior year and loved the piece. It wasn't the easiest thing but I really liked it. (only 1st band played it. We had three bands and out of 25 flutes total, I was 3rd chair first band.)
Have fun with it!
Have fun with it!
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