Standard Solo/Etude Repertoire?

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Thanks for all of the advice. :]
I'm gonna try to bring my flute in for a checkup this weekend and hopefully it won't need to stay in the shop for too long if it needs repair.

auwon:
Are you sure the auditions are April? The site says March. o_o I'm really nervous, too, because I heard the music department has a really good reputation and it's very competitive, which is adding to the chill factor.

I'm glad that there are flute players on the forums who are local. :] I still haven't completely decided which college I'm going to [I'm still waiting for a few more acceptances]. The UCs I've applied to don't have music programs as good as CSUF's, but they have good programs for the major I'm planning to take which Fullerton doesn't really compare.. So hard to choose!!

I was thinking of Faure's Fantaisie too, but I haven't rehearsed enough to use for auditions.

I guess if Concerto's not playing to my liking, I'll look for another piece that isn't out of reach for my flute to play. Thanks for the tips! I hope to hear from your audition. :] (And maybe we might see each other there, too!)

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whoops, i meant that my audition is march 25th. i've talked with other music majors about their auditions and they all have said that it goes by really fast because it is literally 10 minutes. one flutist said her audition was "hard" but others have said that it wasn't bad. i'm hoping for the best! i'm actually not sure how competitive the music program is...it seems that as long as you show that you are working hard and putting in a good effort that they will give you a chance. we will see!

what day is your audition?

- auwon

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auwon wrote:i am also auditioning at csuf!! my audition is sunday april 25th and i am so nervous! i am actually a psychology major there right now and i have decided to change it to music.
[....]
Wow! What a coincidence! I too am planning on auditioning in the future at CSUF (late application :( ), and was googling "Standard Solo Repertoire" to figure out what was appropriate when I found this link! How'd you do?

I'm currently working on a couple of pieces that my instructor recommended for a local Master Class that I'm signed up for this summer - 3 Movements from Suite in B minor, by J.S. Bach, and Sonate III, by ...Handel? (it's a copy of a copy, so...) Would those be appropriate?

*Edit* The Handel piece that I have says Sonate III on it, but I was looking for a fresh copy in the music store today and found the same piece listed in a "Seven Sonatas" book as #4, and in another publisher's "Seven Sonatas" as #5. :shock: :?: :?

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Iolaus wrote:
auwon wrote:i am also auditioning at csuf!! my audition is sunday april 25th and i am so nervous! i am actually a psychology major there right now and i have decided to change it to music.
[....]
Wow! What a coincidence! I too am planning on auditioning in the future at CSUF (late application :( ), and was googling "Standard Solo Repertoire" to figure out what was appropriate when I found this link! How'd you do?

I'm currently working on a couple of pieces that my instructor recommended for a local Master Class that I'm signed up for this summer - 3 Movements from Suite in B minor, by J.S. Bach, and Sonate III, by ...Handel? (it's a copy of a copy, so...) Would those be appropriate?

*Edit* The Handel piece that I have says Sonate III on it, but I was looking for a fresh copy in the music store today and found the same piece listed in a "Seven Sonatas" book as #4, and in another publisher's "Seven Sonatas" as #5. :shock: :?: :?
It's never a good idea to rely upon the numbers that publishers give (I, II, III, etc.) to works from the baroque and classical periods. The better practice, if possible, is to use the catalog number which can then be matched with the key to ensure you have the correct piece of music. Handel, for instance, is normally catalogued with an "HWV" number; Bach is "BWV"; Mozart is "K" (Koechel).

Also, I would suggest to anybody studying baroque works for the flute to always purchase an "urtext" edition; that is, one that is largely unedited and is closest to the original composer's manuscript. C.F. Peters and Barenreiter are two good sources for this. These editions tend to be more expensive; however, they are well worth it. The reason an unedited source is better, IMO, is that you and/or your teacher can help you form appropriate articulations (slurs, tonguing, etc.) as well as ornamentation (especially in the case of Handel). Personally, I hate the heavily edited student versions of baroque sonatas we have around. I realize they are there to assist younger players by doing the stylistic work for them. However, I have found them to be generally overly-romanticized or flat out wrong in their approach to authentic baroque playing. If you want to learn about baroque ornamentation, purchase On Playing the Flute by Quantz.

As always, just my opinions :-).

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sidekicker wrote: Also, I would suggest to anybody studying baroque works for the flute to always purchase an "urtext" edition; that is, one that is largely unedited and is closest to the original composer's manuscript. C.F. Peters and Barenreiter are two good sources for this. These editions tend to be more expensive; however, they are well worth it. The reason an unedited source is better, IMO, is that you and/or your teacher can help you form appropriate articulations (slurs, tonguing, etc.) as well as ornamentation (especially in the case of Handel)
Yeah, I was looking specifically for a C.F. Peters because that's what I have now, but it's a copy of her thirty year old notated copy and getting a bit hard to read at points. I did find one that almost exactly duplicated what she was penciling in, but it didn't include the trills that Peters' copy had and had new ties in a couple of places.
If you want to learn about baroque ornamentation, purchase On Playing the Flute by Quantz.
Thanks, I'll look it up.

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I'm back! My interests changed in the last few months of high school and I'm going to attend UC Irvine studying pre-pharmacy.

I haven't seen their music program to decide if I'll participate in any of their ensembles, but I'll continue to study and playing the flute.

I'm also looking into a flute teacher around the university for when I can pay for lessons after I get a job, so I'm looking forward to getting actual lessons.

For now, I'm preparing Mozart's Concerto No. 1 Allegro maestoso and Faure's Fantaisie to audition for their orchestra.

I do have a question, though.
Is there a certain way scales are expected to be played in an audition? I'm used to honor bands giving a sheet with given articulations, tempo, etc. (Up to the octave or the 9th, etc) but auditions where they just say "play these scales" leave me with a raised eyebrow.
Scales: All major and minor scales, chromatic scale (3 octaves, C' to C4)

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auwon wrote:i am also auditioning at csuf!! my audition is sunday april 25th and i am so nervous! i am actually a psychology major there right now and i have decided to change it to music.
Wow! What a coincidence! I too am planning on auditioning in the future at CSUF (late application :( ), and was googling "Standard Solo Repertoire" to figure out what was appropriate when I found this link! How'd you do?


sorry for the ultimately late reply...i actually was having trouble finding out my results because i had moved and the letter from the music department got sent to my old address. needless to say, i did not make it in for the fall semester and am greatly dissapointed-but i am trying again next semester (as well as to a few other schools, just to keep my options open and to see if i could make it in other programs). i think that i simply did not give myself enough time to adequately prepare for the audition :oops:

there was nothing difficult about the audition, i was just really nervous and am still gaining experience with performing by myself. make sure to practice your scales!

reguardless of my major now, i have been studying with the flute professor at csuf who has been a great mentor and instructor. i know that if you get into csuf you will enjoy there program-they have a lot to offer.

good luck!

- auwon

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deina-kun wrote:I'm also looking into a flute teacher around the university for when I can pay for lessons after I get a job, so I'm looking forward to getting actual lessons.
Is Laguna Beach too far for you? I met with the prof at Fullerton last semester for an informal "counseling" audition, and she recommended a woman in L.B. for me to work with in order to prep for the college program. I know she will take more students; if you're interested let me know

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auwon wrote:[....] i have been studying with the flute professor at csuf who has been a great mentor and instructor. i know that if you get into csuf you will enjoy there program-they have a lot to offer.

good luck!

- auwon
I met Cynthia about six(?) months ago at the master class that she hosted at the college, and then privately later. She did strike me as someone that would be great to work with; and, while I've moved up my schedule a bit (wasn't initially planning to move to the CSU this soon), I do look forward to eventually studying under her.

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Iolaus wrote:
deina-kun wrote:I'm also looking into a flute teacher around the university for when I can pay for lessons after I get a job, so I'm looking forward to getting actual lessons.
Is Laguna Beach too far for you? I met with the prof at Fullerton last semester for an informal "counseling" audition, and she recommended a woman in L.B. for me to work with in order to prep for the college program. I know she will take more students; if you're interested let me know
Well, I'm being dumped into the dorms without a car or insurance, so I'll probably have to look around public transportation to get around. Long Beach isn't so far from UCI I think.. PM me her lesson prices and I'll see. :] I was considering this teacher who lives in Upland who studied at USC and Univ or Northern Texas, but since I'm dorming, commute will be too far.

I'm open for any recommendations to teachers, and the transportation problem I can find ways around. :]

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deina-kun wrote:
Iolaus wrote:Is Laguna Beach too far for you? I met with the prof at Fullerton last semester for an informal "counseling" audition, and she recommended a woman in L.B. for me to work with in order to prep for the college program. I know she will take more students; if you're interested let me know
Well, I'm being dumped into the dorms without a car or insurance, so I'll probably have to look around public transportation to get around. Long Beach isn't so far from UCI I think.. PM me her lesson prices and I'll see. :] I was considering this teacher who lives in Upland who studied at USC and Univ or Northern Texas, but since I'm dorming, commute will be too far.

I'm open for any recommendations to teachers, and the transportation problem I can find ways around. :]
By LB, I meant Laguna Beach; I think it's a little closer to UCI than Long Beach.

Valorie (my teacher) studied with the same teachers as the Prof at Fullerton - they were classmates - and then went on to study privately under John Barcellona (from CSULB) after graduating. She's not cheap, but she's good. I'll PM you the details.

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deina-kun wrote: I do have a question, though.
Is there a certain way scales are expected to be played in an audition? I'm used to honor bands giving a sheet with given articulations, tempo, etc. (Up to the octave or the 9th, etc) but auditions where they just say "play these scales" leave me with a raised eyebrow...
i don't think there is one particuliar way to play a scale unless it is noted. i think the main idea is that you want the scale to sound as smooth and flawless as possible. some may specify tongued, others slurred, staccatto or legato, its good to practice your scales in all these styles.

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