I'm not sure that's entirely correct about the little finger, but I seem to recall seeing a video of someone on Utube demonstrating the Rockstro technique and he mentioned he didn't always keep his little finger down. I think you do need it to help stabilize the flute when playing certain notes though, but it seems as if keeping it depressed all the time adds strain to your little finger. Any comments on this would be welcome .
I bought both the Jessica Walsh books too. I think I prefer the Medieval & Renaissance one. On the CD for that one she plays a silver flute with a wooden headjoint and it sounds lovely. The pieces are all fairly easy to play. What I like about them is that although they are simple, they are very musical. If I wasn't so slow at reading the music I'd probably have got through the book by now. I'm trying not to rely too much on just listening to the CD and copying what I hear. It certainly helps, but I need to train myself to actually read the music.
Thanks for that info about the headjoint. I may contact Bill Lazar then and see if it's possible to do that. Mine's brand new so shouldn't be a problem.
http://www.music.iastate.edu/antiqua/r_record.htm I love this type of music. Listening to those sound clips made me decide to get a recorder.
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It's not entirely necessary to have the pinky down for most notes, but it should become habit, as there are places where it is necessary, and it's far easier to just get used to it now. So long as you're only applying enough pressure to open the key (and the spring tension, and thus the pressure necessary can be adjusted to some extent), you shouldn't be introducing any additional tension into your hands. I disagree with using the pinky as a balance point....Train yourself to do this, and you'll likely have issues with the flute rolling inward, aside from the possibility of having tension introduced into your hold, which can cause injury. A 3 point balance (chin, base of left index finger, and RH thumb) is more than adequate to keep the flute in a secure position. I often release my right hand to manage quick page turns, meaning that I'm actually playing with 2 points to balance the flute.Anne wrote:I'm not sure that's entirely correct about the little finger, but I seem to recall seeing a video of someone on Utube demonstrating the Rockstro technique and he mentioned he didn't always keep his little finger down. I think you do need it to help stabilize the flute when playing certain notes though, but it seems as if keeping it depressed all the time adds strain to your little finger. Any comments on this would be welcome .
Now, Rockstro works for some folks, but it was originally developed for simple system flutes, which had far less in the way of a mechanism. With modern Boehm instruments, the center of gravity is changed by relatively long (and heavy) rods along only one side of the tube that are placed out from the tube by the posts. This can cause the flute to roll back toward the player if the flute is held with keys parallel to the ceiling. One solution is to tilt the flute outward (keys toward the audience), which places the rods on top, but it's often better to roll back, placing the rods toward the bottom of the tube, and thus defeating any rolling impulse the flute might have. Keep in mind that these are relatively small movements...Actually playing with the keys facing a wall (be it in front or in back of you) is going to cause far more problems than it solves.
Yes, I'm still experimenting with the Rockstro grip. I am finding that by supporting the flute more with my chin and left hand first finger, using it as a "shelf", that I am needing my right hand thumb less to hold. Some notes I can remove my right thumb all together relieveing any tension that has built up. I now want to focus on just using my right thumb to just rest on the flute tube and use no pressure at all.
Anne - I know about those samples and they are very good. There is also a Recorder Radio online (free) that plays all the professional recorder players but I can't find the link now. I recommend that you listen to the Amsterdam Loeki Stardust recorder quartet. They are very good.
Anne - I know about those samples and they are very good. There is also a Recorder Radio online (free) that plays all the professional recorder players but I can't find the link now. I recommend that you listen to the Amsterdam Loeki Stardust recorder quartet. They are very good.
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Thanks for the input flutepicc06. I figure I'll just practice for a bit without my little finger down all the time basically to get out of the habit of putting too much pressure on it. It seems to be working alright.
bfloyd - I listened to Amsterdam Loeki Stardust recorder quartet on UTube. Pretty amazing stuff. Found quite a few really good players on there. Recorder Radio won't work for me as I have dial up. Need to change to high speed.
bfloyd - I listened to Amsterdam Loeki Stardust recorder quartet on UTube. Pretty amazing stuff. Found quite a few really good players on there. Recorder Radio won't work for me as I have dial up. Need to change to high speed.
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