Trick fingering for Suite Antique

fablauren · Post by **fablauren** » Mon Mar 10, 2003 3:51 pm

I''m playing Suite Antique by John
Rutter in a couple of weeks at a really important recital and I have no idea how
to play the final ornamenty thing (trill?) at the very end of the last movement.
Does anyone know the trick fingering? I have tried playing it by overblowing the
notes from the octave below, but it sounds pants. If anyone could help me I
would be very very grateful. lauren

sweetensour · Post by **sweetensour** » Mon Mar 10, 2003 6:23 pm

could you try explaining what it
looks like?

damjan · Post by **damjan** » Tue Mar 11, 2003 2:32 am

What notes are involved? (which note
do you trill?)

fablauren · Post by **fablauren** » Tue Mar 11, 2003 2:10 pm

I think it's more of a turn kind of
figure thinking about it. It goes (in semiquavers very very fast) starting on
top a it goes abag (group of 4 semiquavers in the second half of a 2/4 bar) abag
(1st group in 5/8 bar)abagab (2nd group in 5/8 bar) a (accented quaver). So
basically abagabagab a. Sorry if that is really confusing i just thought the
rhythm might be helpful...hmm not great at describing music. lauren

damjan · Post by **damjan** » Thu Mar 13, 2003 7:47 pm

Dear Lauren, I would just play
regular fingerings but I know this would probably not help you much so I asked
my friend Boglarka Kiss (also a teacher at Fluteland.com - the one who actually
teaches at all the video lessons and a trully amazing flute player), and here is
what she said: --------------- Damjan, Here's my wisdom. It's not easy because
the airstream and pressure have to be manipulated a lot. This is what I'm
understanding: we need a fingering for ABAG repeated many times fast in the top
register. (No C# trill key is available.) Assuming I got it right, here's the
breakdown: A-B: finger a 2nd octave A and put down the G# key. This is a fake
fingering for 3rd reg. A (overblow to get the octave). To get to B, wiggle the
left middle finger (A), while keeping the G# down. G: to get to G from the A-B
fake trill: finger a 2nd octave C with the G# still down (it doesn't have to be
down, but this way, getting back to the fake A is going to involve less finger
motion). Overblow to the 5th, and you'll get a 3rd reg. G. The problem here is
airstream because A-B is overblowing an octave, and the G is overblowing a 5th.
With practice, I got it though. The difficulty is to "climb" back to the A after
the fake G, I think. If this is not it, Lauren please tell us note by note the
duration and pitch (is a semiquaver a 16th note?). I never got the English names
of rhythmic values right...sorry. Well, I hope this helps. Boglarka

sarah_and_flute · Post by **sarah_and_flute** » Mon Nov 10, 2003 11:21 am

Oh, I've played the Suite
Antique... if you want I'll have a look at it when I go home later and tell you
what I did for that last trill- I can't remember at the moment though [:)]
Isn't it beautiful? Are you performing it with the string ensemble and
harpsichord, or just with the piano? Good luck, anyway!