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rkimmel
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Value of silver in my flute

Post by rkimmel »

Hello,
If anyone could please offer advice.
I have an Wilkins Artley flute that I have stored for years. Purchased 1973.
I know that it is considered sterling all three joints and has white gold springs.
Does anyone have any advice of it's scrap value now that silver is moving up?
Were the rods and keys plated or were those solid silver also?
It pains me to even ask this question, but I must look for ways to fund college expense for our son and I do have a Haynes that I enjoy.
I know the level of flute building is so improved that it is hard to get a good price on it from a player so I was considering listing it for it's metal worth.
Thanks so much

wakeless
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Re: Value of silver in my flute

Post by wakeless »

It seems a shame to melt down a flute, but I can understand how it could be tempting with silver around $45 per ounce. Unless the instrument is badly damaged, however, you might be better off selling it intact on eBay or Craigslist. Those Wilkins models still bring around $600 or more if they're in good condition, and are really excellent players if fitted with an upgraded headjoint. The head, body, keys, and mechanism are all silver. (The head crown may or may not be.) The flute weighs right about 16 ounces total. With the screws, pads, pad washers, head crown, and steels removed, it probably weighs closer to 13 oz. in silver. That would calculate to $585, except that a buyer doesn't pay but about 80% of the weight, paying you about $470. Also, the grade of the silver is taken into account. I believe the Wilkins is coin silver, not 0.925 sterling. I don't know anyone who has sold a flute this way, but you'd probably be doing good to get $400. I'd try selling the flute on eBay first, whether a pad job is needed or not. After all, the Wilkins is a copy of a high-end Powell, albeit with a flawed embouchure cut and placement, and there are players out there who love this flute even with the original head. I have a '74 edition I play with a JB Weismann headjoint. It sounds and plays wonderfully. Good luck, and I'd be interested to hear how it pans out for you.

Longwll
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Re: Value of silver in my flute

Post by Longwll »

Hi

May I respectfully ask why you think they are coin silver? Interesting that they are not stamped "silver"

And I just learned from Bruce Bailey that the crowns on the Gemeinhardt 3SS are plated. I wonder why? Silver was so cheap back then (and now again)

And now I believe it because I just bought a 3SS and there seems to be a little brass showing on the tip of the crown.

Longwll
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Re: Value of silver in my flute

Post by Longwll »

Thanks, Wakeland for that 13 ounce estimate. I'm still trying to determine the silver content of an "all silver" flute. Easy enough to calculate the weight of the tube and I thought if I removed all the keywork I could weigh it but the long silver shafts are apparently impaled by a steel shaft which cannot be removed (no, I'm not going to melt down any vintage flute parts).

I bought a basket case H. Bettoney "Columbia Model" because I heard from at least 3 sources that they have solid sterling keys and mechanism, even though the tube is plated. Weird combination? It is missing the headjoint and the tube is all beat up and losing silver plate. I completely disassembled it since the pads were shot. I wanted to weigh the mechanism separately to determine the amount of silver Problem is, the long silver shafts have steel inserts which apparently can't be extracted. I guess I'll need to calculate/estimate the weight of the steel inserts. I'm wondering about the posts. I filed one a little and it looks like silver or "German silver"

Any thoughts about extracting the steel inserts or the composition of the posts? There is also a steel-looking part inside each pad cup, containing the female threads for the pad thingy

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